Charcoal/wood burners for heating

cooljules

We have a woodburner fitted in our self built Transit camper and have to say it's the best thing we ever did. It means we can get away whatever the weather and be sure of keeping warm throughout the night. It doubles as a cooker and we've enjoyed several meals done on it so far,one of which was a big pan of chille for the music meet at The Brownlow,which was enjoyed by all,even the landlady and staff. We spent new year at Ribblehead at the back of the Station Inn where people were practically queueing up to come and bask in the warmth,they'd have spent the night there if we'd let them. As for the negative comments implying that anyone with a woodburner fitted in a moving vehicle must be a complete moron who's willing to run the risk of being showered with chunks of hot steel with no regard for human safety,I not only find those comments ill-founded but downright insulting as well,so they don't even deserve an answer. Suffice to say that EVERY safety issue has been scrupulously observed and it's not part of our plan to die in a campervan. It's a personal choice whether to have one or not,we chose to do so and are extremely happy we did,if you choose to have a blown air heater,that's fine too,happy camping.

can you post more info on it please, sounds interesting. size and fotos would be cool as i cant picture it in my head. as i have a bare van at the moment, its something i would like to learn more about. thanks
 

Tbear

Not as worried about the hot steel and coals flying around as I am an insurance company reading this thread and the decimal place moving on all our premiums :)

Richard
 

splitty67

I can't post any photos just yet as I've misplaced the lead to my camera,but as soon as I find it I'll put them up so you can see how it all works. Basically it sits behind the driver's seat in an enclosed fireproof space,but it's wherever you prefer it depending on the design you come up with. There's a link here to the man who built and fitted ours http://www.thefireweaver.com/,his name is Julian Cowderoy,give him a call and he'll tell you everything you need to know. There's a lot of misinformation about the safety aspects of fitting woodburners,usually borne from ignorance,sometimes coming from know-it-alls and jobsworths. But if you've got a modicom of common sense and can get past some of the verbal diarrhoea that you come across,then you'll have no problems whatsoever. It's also nice to see others commenting on this thread about the benefits of this particular form of heating as it tends to balance thing out a little. As I've said before,they're not for everyone,if for example,you own a modern motorhome with all the facilities they have to offer,then you'd be crazy to fit one,but ours is a converted '93 Tranny so it doesn't look out of place. In the end it all comes down to personal choice,but should you decide to fit one,I guarantee you'll be glad you did it,they're absolutely brilliant.
 

leosaphira

I can't post any photos just yet as I've misplaced the lead to my camera,but as soon as I find it I'll put them up so you can see how it all works. Basically it sits behind the driver's seat in an enclosed fireproof space,but it's wherever you prefer it depending on the design you come up with. There's a link here to the man who built and fitted ours http://www.thefireweaver.com/,his name is Julian Cowderoy,give him a call and he'll tell you everything you need to know. There's a lot of misinformation about the safety aspects of fitting woodburners,usually borne from ignorance,sometimes coming from know-it-alls and jobsworths. But if you've got a modicom of common sense and can get past some of the verbal diarrhoea that you come across,then you'll have no problems whatsoever. It's also nice to see others commenting on this thread about the benefits of this particular form of heating as it tends to balance thing out a little. As I've said before,they're not for everyone,if for example,you own a modern motorhome with all the facilities they have to offer,then you'd be crazy to fit one,but ours is a converted '93 Tranny so it doesn't look out of place. In the end it all comes down to personal choice,but should you decide to fit one,I guarantee you'll be glad you did it,they're absolutely brilliant.


+1 on Julian - met him and his other half a few times and is a very sound bloke with many years behind him in terms of woodburners. With his advice I have my woodburner fitted in my camper. Ex canal boat stove with 5 hotplates on top (enough room to do the cooking) inc oven.. the cutting of the hole part was the bit i needed some advice so when I was with him with a brew he talked to me all how its done. Finally got it done last weekend and 2 hours of "dry" weather the 8" hole was taken out of the van roof in a certain way. All sealed supported and ready to go. Tomorrow will see it been fired up for the 1st time ( and a brand new CO2 detector has been installed too)

Mick
 

john t

A bit different but a bit of the same really, we are currently till the end of this month looking after a friends house who has a coal/log burner in his house. We are now gonna convert our house when we return to it on the 1st April (after midday), by taking the gas fire out, and putting in a coal/log burner.
We have definately been converted to this form of heating, but as we have a practically brand new van convertion i can't put a small coal/log burner in it.

If i had an older van that was doing a home convertion, knowing what i know now, i wouldn't hesitate to put one in my van.
But what i would do, is go and take a look at someone who's done it how they did, or who did it for them first, before i attempted to do one in mine.

Multifuel stoves are ace.!!!!!

jt
 

Deadsfo

wood burner

It looks like the people who have them have taken good advice and acted appropriatly ,It does seem more akin to an older self build project,having one at home
and seeing chimneys on some motor was the reason behind my query The amount of heat even a small one creates is quite substantial and as a previous poster has said careful siteing is important ,The insurance aspect is an interesting on and if it is a case of if they don't ask you dont say is that good enough
 

jonkil

Good to see sensible people making proper contributions to a good thread.
I echo sentiments aired here, no problem with solid stoves if good practice is observed.
You would need to be a proper idiot to drive around without it being bolted and secured properly...... then again the people who would do that will probably get hit in the back of the head with a kettle under braking anyway !
 

Tony Lee

Nothing strange about it,you HAVE missed those posts,try the previous two to mine,but then you wouldn't see them would you because you're too busy being a smart-arse. "The lady doth protest too much?",what does that say about you? "Seriously question"all you like mate,but there's nothing I could tell you since you obviously already know everything.

I'd have to say that the quality of your posts is on a rapid downhill spiral. Post #1 was quite objectionable, post #2 even more so, so I await your next post with interest. Rabid foaming at the mouth spewing personal insults and foul language perhaps.
 

whitevanwoman

Nothing strange about it,you HAVE missed those posts,try the previous two to mine,but then you wouldn't see them would you because you're too busy being a smart-arse. "The lady doth protest too much?",what does that say about you? "Seriously question"all you like mate,but there's nothing I could tell you since you obviously already know everything.

I'd have to say that the quality of your posts is on a rapid downhill spiral. Post #1 was quite objectionable, post #2 even more so, so I await your next post with interest. Rabid foaming at the mouth spewing personal insults and foul language perhaps.

Is there any need for this kind of reply? It seems to me that you are doing exactly the same. Shame for another good thread to be spoiled.

[WVW scuttles off quick, foaming at the mouth, to spew insults at the dog who just wags his tail and takes no notice ]
 

whitevanwoman

Does semantics really matter?

Yet again, contributors have made it very clear on this thread that those people who have chosen multi fuel stoves as their form of heating are fully aware of the dangers and repeated warnings about this on virtually every thread on this subject are both unnnecessary, patronising and, to be honest, an insult to the intelligence of those who take the effort to post, especailly when it is a single post mid thread without any other useful contribution to the original question.

Aladdinsane, perhaps you would like to start your own thread about the risks of gas poisoning so that those who are not aware of the risks have a dedicated thread on the subject, and other threads about heating do not end up going off topic and spoiled by bickering and squabbling.
 

Aladdinsane

Does semantics really matter?

Yet again, contributors have made it very clear on this thread that those people who have chosen multi fuel stoves as their form of heating are fully aware of the dangers and repeated warnings about this on virtually every thread on this subject are both unnnecessary, patronising and, to be honest, an insult to the intelligence of those who take the effort to post, especailly when it is a single post mid thread without any other useful contribution to the original question.

Aladdinsane, perhaps you would like to start your own thread about the risks of gas poisoning so that those who are not aware of the risks have a dedicated thread on the subject, and other threads about heating do not end up going off topic and spoiled by bickering and squabbling.
My postings are not intended as bickering or squabbling,(not a single post if you read the whole thread) this is an open forum with many new members every day, some may have experience some not, facts are important on this subject. Once people have all the facts then they can make their own decision.

One more point, the recommended flue height to create a sufficient draw for air intake and safe removal of gasses for a wood burner is 4.5 metres. (can be shorter if mechanical assistance is used)
 

whitevanwoman

My postings are not intended as bickering or squabbling,(not a single post if you read the whole thread) this is an open forum with many new members every day, some may have experience some not, facts are important on this subject. Once people have all the facts then they can make their own decision.

One more point, the recommended flue height to create a sufficient draw for air intake and safe removal of gasses for a wood burner is 4.5 metres. (can be shorter if mechanical assistance is used)

Whether or not they are intended as bickering and squabbling, it is patently obvious that is what they are causing and for the sake of the original poster, it would be more respectful to bow out gracefully (which is what I shall be doing after this post) once you have made your point the first time. I fully agree that the facts are important which is why I suggested a new thread where you can post the facts for those who are specifically wanting that information, and those members who have been told over and over again do not have to continue to have the discussion blighted.

I'm sure you would agree that it is not advisable for people to act on information posted on forums or on people's personal opinions especially with regards to safety issues, as there is no guarantee that anything that is posted on an open forum is factually correct, and repeated warnings are simply more likely to wind people up and detract from the serious message you are trying to give.

Sadly, I had to ask for the thread I started about heating to be closed after your contributions took it off subject and it turned into a pointless argument. It would be a shame for the original poster if the same happened to this thread and would mean that the serious message you insist on telling us all over and over again is not taken seriously.

I'm sorry that you have assumed that I haven't bothered reading the whole thread, comments like that do not help people to respect what you are saying.

To the OP, I did warn you this was a contentious subject. My advice to you is to seek information from reputable websites or to PM people who have given good advice here. Sadly the next time I'm looking for information about heating I won't be asking openly on this forum but will look elsewhere so that I get the facts I need without the arguments.
 

Aladdinsane

Whether or not they are intended as bickering and squabbling, it is patently obvious that is what they are causing and for the sake of the original poster, it would be more respectful to bow out gracefully (which is what I shall be doing after this post) once you have made your point the first time. I fully agree that the facts are important which is why I suggested a new thread where you can post the facts for those who are specifically wanting that information, and those members who have been told over and over again do not have to continue to have the discussion blighted.

I'm sure you would agree that it is not advisable for people to act on information posted on forums or on people's personal opinions especially with regards to safety issues, as there is no guarantee that anything that is posted on an open forum is factually correct, and repeated warnings are simply more likely to wind people up and detract from the serious message you are trying to give.

Sadly, I had to ask for the thread I started about heating to be closed after your contributions took it off subject and it turned into a pointless argument. It would be a shame for the original poster if the same happened to this thread and would mean that the serious message you insist on telling us all over and over again is not taken seriously.

I'm sorry that you have assumed that I haven't bothered reading the whole thread, comments like that do not help people to respect what you are saying.

To the OP, I did warn you this was a contentious subject. My advice to you is to seek information from reputable websites or to PM people who have given good advice here. Sadly the next time I'm looking for information about heating I won't be asking openly on this forum but will look elsewhere so that I get the facts I need without the arguments.
If you read the thread (without predudice)
Please explain where my comments do not relate to the OPs' first question
 

n brown

Forum Member
4.5 metres ! does this mean that thousands of canal boat dwellers,plus thousands of van dwellers,small workshop owners,allotment shed owners and cottage owners are all going to die?? it's one thing making sure people are informed but whoever came up with this measurement is obviously so into H and S he's too scared to step outdoors !how i've survived this[unbeknownst to me !] incredibly perilous journey through life i'll never know !unless i managed it by looking at a problem,using my own common sense,and doing my own risk assessment,then making my own decisions
 

Aladdinsane

4.5 metres ! does this mean that thousands of canal boat dwellers,plus thousands of van dwellers,small workshop owners,allotment shed owners and cottage owners are all going to die?? it's one thing making sure people are informed but whoever came up with this measurement is obviously so into H and S he's too scared to step outdoors !how i've survived this[unbeknownst to me !] incredibly perilous journey through life i'll never know !unless i managed it by looking at a problem,using my own common sense,and doing my own risk assessment,then making my own decisions

I didn't make it up! I had to go through building regs when i fitted my 2nd stove in a single storey extension.

This article is sad
Teenager dies in summerhouse after wood-burning stove leaks carbon monoxide | Mail Online
 

edina

One more point, the recommended flue height to create a sufficient draw for air intake and safe removal of gasses for a wood burner is 4.5 metres. (can be shorter if mechanical assistance is used)

My narrowboat stove has a flue and chimney with a combined height of less than half that!
It is very efficient and every 4 years is subject to a very stricy Boat Safety Certificate examination; we have CO detectors fitted and they have never been activated, so it would seem to me that you are worrying people un-necessarily by making statements like this.
 

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