Apart from the sevel vans, are any vans wide enough for a full size bed past the ribs

Byronic

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#21
flares don't stick out as much as wing mirrors. if they protrude 50mm and that is filled with insulation , you still gain the extra width of the wall thickness, 2-4 inches each side. or just don't put wall panelling and insulation where your head and feet need to go , just fix carpet or camping mat to the van skin to stop condensation
I pull my wing mirrors in if needs be, distance then is within the wheelarch width.
Truth is bulges look terrible in my eyes. I'm just trying hard to find a practical
justification for not having them!
Wm. Morris "Have nothing that you do not know to be useful or believe to be
beautiful". That's what he quoted, of a stately home or old nail of a van!
 

n brown

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#22
I pull my wing mirrors in if needs be, distance then is within the wheelarch width.
Truth is bulges look terrible in my eyes. I'm just trying hard to find a practical
justification for not having them!
Wm. Morris "Have nothing that you do not know to be useful or believe to be
beautiful". That's what he quoted, of a stately home or old nail of a van!
well i like bulges and believe them to be beautiful [ in case the wife reads this ]
my second option still gives most vans a 6' bed
 


Byronic

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#23
well i like bulges and believe them to be beautiful [ in case the wife reads this ]
my second option still gives most vans a 6' bed
In the right place, so do I. Quite fancy myself in a pair of budgie smuggling speedos !
 
#24
Each to their own, but I don't really get the attraction of a transverse bed UNLESS it is for a single bed width. You end up saving not that much space and if two people are sleeping it is inconvenient for one of you.
I fitted a standard double (135cm X 190cm) bed in my van with side shelves either side from bed to windows to give extra elbow room, places to put drinks, glasses, books, phones, etc.
Works very well and I don't think I would turn it round if the van was wider.
 

Byronic

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#25
I originally had a transverse bed, 190cm (6'-3") length. I'm 6'-2". I doubted
that it would suit, and it didn't. But I had a plan B so reverted to that.
Ideally a bed should be at least 6" longer than body length, the head in the
middle of the pillow, not at the edge. So unless you're a shortarse then the
width of currently available panel vans is just not enough, and if it's a short bed
you may have problems when selling on.
Sure, most people can put up with head butting the wall or kipping diagonally
for a week or so, but long term it's a compromise too far,....... 'tis for me.
 

ricc

Full Member
#26
For info I've just measured my 06 iveco daily. It's 71 inches between the ply lining at bed height. We just slide in a double mattress loong ways. Got plenty of length, about 12 foot to the cab bulkhead.
 

Darcar

Full Member
#28
For us, the difference of around 2&1/2 feet, would reduce the living space just to much.
Our bed is across the van, it’s 6’2” long fits a standard mattress.
Giving us the space we wanted for bathroom wc shower etc.
 
#29
Just measured the transverse bed in my Renault Master. 226cms (89inches). Had to sew fitted sheets for it as its way longer than standard size.
 
#32
I believe the latest Morvano/Master is wider than a Ducato at around 2ft from floor.
Not as far as I am concerned as I own a 2008 Renault Master !

The most difficult thing about building a Master/Movano conversion is the tumble home of the walls, i.e. unlike the Sevel vans that are nigh on square and very wide, the Master/Movano is not only quite significantly narrower but the van side walls curve outwards, but only very slightly from the floor before then bending in quite significantly....... Believe me it is a right royal b-tch of a job to get the cupboard walls to accurately follow the curvature of the walls!

There are some people who have built transverse beds across the back of the Master/Movano in the very same way as some have done across the rust bucket Sprinters and even more rust bucket Transits, but all of those beds (without extending the side walls) will all be slightly less than 6' in length.
 

Dowel

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#33
Trafic, Vivaro and Primastar are similar, the wall profile bends in and out. Tightest spot width ways (1570mm) is at the C pillar where the fixing for part of the rear seat belt mounting (minibus and crew cab versions) intrudes. I bent and hammered back as far as possible in my van but the C pillar itself narrows the width down to1585mm.
Trafic O'S C Pillar.jpg Vivaro Load Compartment, H1, L1 & L2 vans.JPG
 

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