Jerry can holder

[Tookey]

Presently I plan to buy the holders in the link

20 Litre Wavian Jerrycan Holder For Transport & Storage

Our robust metal 20-litre Jerry Can holder will help you secure this product to your vehicle, garage, outbuilding or commercial property. steel, black design.

www.jerrycans.co.uk

I am fixing on to fibre glass; I am thinking internally firstly to increase the thickness by using a fibre glass repair kit with that armid tape I have been recommended, then glueing a length of inch wide (wider?) steel internally, bolting the holders through that and then using a fibre glass repair kit to then go over the length of steel and surrounding fibreglass.

I have never done anything like this so thoughts very much welcome as I might by driving on washboard tracks and don't want to find a big hole and no jerry cans at the end of the day

Ty

 

[SquirrellCook]

Just watch out as some of the modern Jerry Cans are so thin they split with the weight of the contents!

 

[Tookey]

I had read that so wanted an old one but after further reading that seemed hit and miss as well!

Unless someone gives a reason not to I'm getting these........they are too important to cut corners and gamble on quality. They are a tenner more than army surplus but so be it

20 Litre Wavian Steel Fuel Can / Jerry Can in Khaki / Green

The 20-litre Wavian fuel can in khaki green is built to the highest quality, robust construction, a wider breather pipe and a corrosion-resistant lining.

www.jerrycans.co.uk

 

[mistericeman]

I'd be very careful just how you attach the holders... A full Jerry can of water/fuel is heavy and even under normal road conditions can cause stress failures...

The only satisfactory method I found was on a purpose made roof rack (2 x 25 litre diesel/ 2 x 25 litre water)
I only did it a couple of times whilst touring the remoter parts of the Highlands in the landrover...

Then found with better planning I didn't need to bother..
It also stopped the ferry companies having hysterics on crossings ;-)

 

[Tookey]

I'd be very careful just how you attach the holders... A full Jerry can of water/fuel is heavy and even under normal road conditions can cause stress failures...

The only satisfactory method I found was on a purpose made roof rack (2 x 25 litre diesel/ 2 x 25 litre water)
I only did it a couple of times whilst touring the remoter parts of the Highlands in the landrover...

Then found with better planning I didn't need to bother..
It also stopped the ferry companies having hysterics on crossings ;-)

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I agree with your point but the weakest element of my Delica is it can be tippy and I don't want any weight up top other than a couple of PV panels (awning is off). Fibre glass can cope with fixed ladders, bike racks and cargo boxes. Unless I get a general consensus of 'don't do it' I am gonna try.

Great photo

 

[mark61]

Can the cans he held on the rear ladder?

 

[wildebus]

I know you said you don't want to use the roof to carry, so this is not going to be much use really, but this is how I carry a pair of 10L cans (one Petrol for Generator and one Diesel for Heater/Vehicle topups)
Jerry Cans in Holders that are bolted down to a Rhino Rack Basket.

OnSafari by David, on Flickr
(sorry, couldn't find a pic without the animals!)

 

[SquirrellCook]

With the older jerry cans they tend to shed red lead paint, so your funnel needs a good filter. We treat our cans badly, and have found the military ones tougher. I wonder if the stainless jerry cans are made any better?

 

[Red Dwarf]

The load needs to be spread at the mounting points, I would imagine you’d need some large metal of wood plates on the inside of the fibreglass. Reckoning the fuel at roughly 1litre=1kg plus the weight of the can and holder. Then partially full the contents will be mobile and sloshing about...
understand I’m saying all this with very little experience of using fibreglass, perhaps someone else is more up to speed. Just the engineer in me tells me the load needs to be spread.

I guess the Delica is a bit of a handful with that big body on it. They were a bit here and there in standard body form, a bit nose heavy and I seem to recall they have torsion bar front suspension? I might be wrong. My bro had a new one way back in the nineties, we were both living in Japan.

 

[Tookey]

Spreading the weight is what I'm hoping the length of steel does.

Nabism recommended this company in another thread;

ECF - East Coast Fibreglass Supplies

ECF The UKs top-rated fibreglass / GRP supplier. Excellent customer service, huge range and next-day delivery available. Free advice for your project.

www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk

I have emailed them asking advice as well. I will share reply

 

[Tookey]

Can the cans he held on the rear ladder?

Haven't dismissed that, not preferable but not in the bin either

 

[mark61]

Haven't dismissed that, not preferable but not in the bin either

One benefit of using ladder for storage is it will stop kids climbing up the ladder, or at least make it a bit more tricky.
Any remote town you drive through, the kids will be straight up it.
Might be a good place for waffle boards, if not cans?

 

[Tookey]

I hadn't thought about kids but it is a good point. I had thought about the boards though as I can keep it really simple by only using one chain/padlock and zip ties and I plan to take a load of zip ties cos there're brilliant!!

If you cant repair it with either a screwdriver, hammer or zip tie it's not repairable

 

[wildebus]

As they say .... Duct Tape for if it moves but shouldn't. WD40 for if it should move but doesn't. Toolkit Sorted

 

[Tookey]

As they say .... Duct Tape for if it moves but shouldn't. WD40 for if it should move but doesn't. Toolkit Sorted

My axle weights might mean that is my tool kit, maybe with a swiss army knife thrown in for good measure !!

 

[HarryInHudds]

I'm sure others will be more qualified to comment, but I feel I've seen that some countries dislike external fuel cans due to the risk in a crash. Especially if it's petrol. One wheeze is to stencil "water" on it... Poss why the British Army seemed to switch to plastic jerry cans.
Whilst I love the overall concept of your expedition, I can't help thinking that your wheelbase being so short, what adding another 25kg right on the back will do? It could smooth out some pitching, but get the natural frequencies wrong (of the suspension vs the potholes) and it could bounce you off the road...

 

[mistericeman]

Where are you planning on venturing that fuel is in such short supply?

 

[Tookey]

Steppes and fingers crossed Gobi, partly it's my tank size that is the issue. I really don't want to be in amazing locations and be thinking about the fuel gauge rather than where I am as that would be shame.

 

[Tookey]

I'm sure others will be more qualified to comment, but I feel I've seen that some countries dislike external fuel cans due to the risk in a crash. Especially if it's petrol. One wheeze is to stencil "water" on it... Poss why the British Army seemed to switch to plastic jerry cans.
Whilst I love the overall concept of your expedition, I can't help thinking that your wheelbase being so short, what adding another 25kg right on the back will do? It could smooth out some pitching, but get the natural frequencies wrong (of the suspension vs the potholes) and it could bounce you off the road...

Yup, cant argue with any of your points. The situation is that I am taking 2 cans and I am not putting them on the roof so I simply have to work with what I've got. Not ideal I agree but it is what it is.

 

[wildebus]

Is there any scope in mounting the cans on the side of the vehicle rather than the back? Could make things more restrictive in negotiating some roads I guess though?
Front mounted which might even out the weight distribution?