Victron Energy + Raspberry pi Physical installation of components, How to achieve it ???

Teardrop-Quebec

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Hello everyone, thank you for your welcome !!!

Let me introduce myself, I am Steve administrator of two French-speaking websites that talk about vintage trailers and mini trailers.
I am a native and live in Canada and I live on the edge of the St. Lawrence River not far from Quebec City.

I thought of you because I have small concerns with the understanding for the confuguration for example, for the installation of three water tank level sensors (fresh water, gray water, black water and propane gas) and installing cards for relays on the Victron Energie system controlled by a Raspberry Pi.

I come to you today because I want to improve my experience in our 2020 travel trailer (Riverside RV Retro 135) and install a central screen (Raspberry touchscreen) where I could see all the relevant information on the different energy levels in the battery and liquids at a glance know the recharging capacity of the solar panels and the charge controller which will be connected to an interface on my raspberry pi 3 b +. Victron VenusOS for Raspberry Pi, but quite honestly I'm quite a novice and have no idea where to start. The software is installed and is already connected in SSH on my network and seems to work because I land on the home page, but otherwise I'm not sure.

I know that (Victron Venus Os) also allows to be able to check the levels of the drinking water tanks on board, the levels of the waste water tanks (gray and black), as well as the quantities of propane gas remaining in the tanks. But I have no idea how to do this and which level sensors should be used. Those which are already installed on the trailer are not reliable.

I already have in hand:
The Raspi 3 b +, and 32 GB SD card with VenusOS which is installed
The Raspberry touch screen, and its case
2 modules of 4 relays 5v,
2 DC to DC 12v to 5v 3 amp modules

I still have to buy Victron Energy parts for the solar part of the project, SmartSolar MPPT 100V / 30A charge controller and BMV-712 plus shunt, 2 VEdirect USB cables if needed, fuse blocks and fuses. And I'm probably forgetting a few other pieces. I am waiting to be certain that the project will be feasible and possible before I invest more money in its items that are not donated.

I have done a lot of research on the different sensors with no real success, my main problem is knowing which protocol to use for this Victron system because it does not seem to have an analog port on the Raspi? I have to use what sort of equipment to be able to measure the levels of the water and propane tanks. And the other part of the problem, and not the least, is that these sensors must be resistant to water and the acidity of organic liquids (black water tank). Is it possible to use an ACD interface board to be able to achieve this.

For the relay module it's the same thing, how to be able to control lights? What kind of connectors do I use and how do I connect the wires to the relay modules? What cable connects to the GPIO to be able to transfer the data from the level sensors between the different Victron modules? Then comes the programming and setting of all its elements which will have to communicate with each other.
Already, for the MPPT charge controller and the Victron BMV-712 battery monitor they are Bluetooth the information should flow well. You have to guess it's the other things that worry me.

Do you think you could help me bring this project to fruition ?? For me it's quite a challenge to overcome.

I don't know if it's clear enough for you to understand the main lines and I don't know if this is a big challenge for you ?? If not do not hesitate to contact me.

A big thank you to you for taking the time to read this far !!!

I am a French uniligue and I use a translation tool to be able to communicate with you. It could be that there are words or baths which will not be comprehensible to you.


Physical installation of components, How to achieve it ???
 

SquirrellCook

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Just a start, but these are the tank sensors I’m planning on using. These I hope should talk to the victron cerbo. I’m also planning on monitoring with a raspberry pie.


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wildebus

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Just a start, but these are the tank sensors I’m planning on using. These I hope should talk to the victron multiplus. I’m also planning on monitoring with a raspberry pie.

I don't think the Multiplus does anything with tank levels.
You would need to add some IO ports to the Raspberry Pi if using one of those (something which I plan to play with over the Winter just out of interest but never done anything like that with the RPi).
One of the advantages of the genuine Victron GX models (Venus, Cerbo, etc) is they have these interfaces built in.
 

wildebus

Full Member
Hello everyone, thank you for your welcome !!!

Let me introduce myself, I am Steve administrator of two French-speaking websites that talk about vintage trailers and mini trailers.
I am a native and live in Canada and I live on the edge of the St. Lawrence River not far from Quebec City.
Out of Interest, do you have a member called "Slim Potatohead"? he is from Canada and has a mini-trailer. Although I don't think he is a Québécois.
 

SquirrellCook

Full Member
I don't think the Multiplus does anything with tank levels.
You would need to add some IO ports to the Raspberry Pi if using one of those (something which I plan to play with over the Winter just out of interest but never done anything like that with the RPi).
One of the advantages of the genuine Victron GX models (Venus, Cerbo, etc) is they have these interfaces built in.
Yes Cerbo, I meant. It’s a good job you know what I’m on about. It’s been a draining day.
 

Teardrop-Quebec

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Right after doing my post, I received this response from the Canadian company GARNET.

Thank you for contacting us!

We do have SeeLeveL display version that will communicate NMEA 2000 protocol that we offer our OEM's. This unit is not advertised to the general public due the advanced programming required. Model 709-N2K_NLP prototype manual is attached for your viewing. Pricing for this display is $ 280CDN and senders are $ 75 each. If you wish to order please contact me at this email address.

If sometimes there would be people who would be interested ...
 

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xsilvergs

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Hello everyone, thank you for your welcome !!!

Let me introduce myself, I am Steve administrator of two French-speaking websites that talk about vintage trailers and mini trailers.
I am a native and live in Canada and I live on the edge of the St. Lawrence River not far from Quebec City.

I thought of you because I have small concerns with the understanding for the confuguration for example, for the installation of three water tank level sensors (fresh water, gray water, black water and propane gas) and installing cards for relays on the Victron Energie system controlled by a Raspberry Pi.

I come to you today because I want to improve my experience in our 2020 travel trailer (Riverside RV Retro 135) and install a central screen (Raspberry touchscreen) where I could see all the relevant information on the different energy levels in the battery and liquids at a glance know the recharging capacity of the solar panels and the charge controller which will be connected to an interface on my raspberry pi 3 b +. Victron VenusOS for Raspberry Pi, but quite honestly I'm quite a novice and have no idea where to start. The software is installed and is already connected in SSH on my network and seems to work because I land on the home page, but otherwise I'm not sure.

I know that (Victron Venus Os) also allows to be able to check the levels of the drinking water tanks on board, the levels of the waste water tanks (gray and black), as well as the quantities of propane gas remaining in the tanks. But I have no idea how to do this and which level sensors should be used. Those which are already installed on the trailer are not reliable.

I already have in hand:
The Raspi 3 b +, and 32 GB SD card with VenusOS which is installed
The Raspberry touch screen, and its case
2 modules of 4 relays 5v,
2 DC to DC 12v to 5v 3 amp modules

I still have to buy Victron Energy parts for the solar part of the project, SmartSolar MPPT 100V / 30A charge controller and BMV-712 plus shunt, 2 VEdirect USB cables if needed, fuse blocks and fuses. And I'm probably forgetting a few other pieces. I am waiting to be certain that the project will be feasible and possible before I invest more money in its items that are not donated.

I have done a lot of research on the different sensors with no real success, my main problem is knowing which protocol to use for this Victron system because it does not seem to have an analog port on the Raspi? I have to use what sort of equipment to be able to measure the levels of the water and propane tanks. And the other part of the problem, and not the least, is that these sensors must be resistant to water and the acidity of organic liquids (black water tank). Is it possible to use an ACD interface board to be able to achieve this.

For the relay module it's the same thing, how to be able to control lights? What kind of connectors do I use and how do I connect the wires to the relay modules? What cable connects to the GPIO to be able to transfer the data from the level sensors between the different Victron modules? Then comes the programming and setting of all its elements which will have to communicate with each other.
Already, for the MPPT charge controller and the Victron BMV-712 battery monitor they are Bluetooth the information should flow well. You have to guess it's the other things that worry me.

Do you think you could help me bring this project to fruition ?? For me it's quite a challenge to overcome.

I don't know if it's clear enough for you to understand the main lines and I don't know if this is a big challenge for you ?? If not do not hesitate to contact me.

A big thank you to you for taking the time to read this far !!!

I am a French uniligue and I use a translation tool to be able to communicate with you. It could be that there are words or baths which will not be comprehensible to you.


Physical installation of components, How to achieve it ???

To read analogue devices using a RPi, search on the Victron Community forum. You could look at the stetson hat for the Pi https://community.victronenergy.com/articles/38710/victron-raspi-hat.html . I have no experience with this.

I do analogue with an MCP3208 ADC connected to the Pi but it's not that straight forward, there is plenty of info on the Victron Community. I have successfully simulated tank level sensors using an Arduino with PWM.

Before you try any of this I recommend you get another SD card because it won't work first time, you can put your working image back in the Pi when you break it.
 

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