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Spoken like a true plumber, have we met?
Neckender
Glad I'm retired and out of it.
John.
John.
shawbags
This is one of the most irresponsible posts i have ever read on here - especially to a question from a new member........ i am surprised at you Alan
van gas leak has appalling results.....
GASSAFE register do have LPG fitters, although there are not many of them ..... call GASSAFE tomorrow and ask if they could find an engineer in your area ?
I understand what your saying but how many times a day do people swop over a gas bottle adapter ? , it is simple to do and you wouldn't pay for a fitter to do that , if it's a complete van fit out with cooker ,boiler , heater etc then I understand your point , basic systems are easy to fit but maybe it would be advised to have it checked for leaks , ini is basically a pressure test so someone like Alan has the ability even though not the paperwork to qualify him , in my mind years of experience is better than a piece of paper , this is my opinion I myself would only fit a basic system .
vwalan
if you use a tyre foot pump with a gauge on and adapt a rubber hose to fit the pipes you can do a pressure test without even putting gas into the pipe work.
i can open anyone of my three lines and check them. if ones leaking fix it .
after all plumbers used to go on a couple weeks corse and turn up on building sites with a nice new canvas bag and new tools .
everyone knew them as bagmen . some were ok others not too smart.
i,m glad i trained as a butcher . learnt alot hee hee .
i can open anyone of my three lines and check them. if ones leaking fix it .
after all plumbers used to go on a couple weeks corse and turn up on building sites with a nice new canvas bag and new tools .
everyone knew them as bagmen . some were ok others not too smart.
i,m glad i trained as a butcher . learnt alot hee hee .
delicagirl
but the original new poster asked for someone else to do it for him - someone he could trust and who was qualified.... presumably he asked that because he does not know how to do it. Neither did i when i first bought my van.
i learnt from bitter experience on this forum that as a newbie you do not know whose advise to listen to and you dont know who knows their stuff and who doesn't .... after all.... newbies dont even know what they dont know let alone know what to ask .....
i have had some appalling awful stuff done to my van by cowboys - and will now only use properly qualified people.
i have worked with gas for many years in my business and know the damage it can do - as do we all.
I still say that recommending that a newbie "does it himself" is really irresponsible.....
i learnt from bitter experience on this forum that as a newbie you do not know whose advise to listen to and you dont know who knows their stuff and who doesn't .... after all.... newbies dont even know what they dont know let alone know what to ask .....
i have had some appalling awful stuff done to my van by cowboys - and will now only use properly qualified people.
i have worked with gas for many years in my business and know the damage it can do - as do we all.
I still say that recommending that a newbie "does it himself" is really irresponsible.....
vwalan
but the original new poster asked for someone else to do it for him - someone he could trust and who was qualified.... presumably he asked that because he does not know how to do it. Neither did i when i first bought my van.
i learnt from bitter experience on this forum that as a newbie you do not know whose advise to listen to and you dont know who knows their stuff and who doesn't .... after all.... newbies dont even know what they dont know let alone know what to ask .....
i have had some appalling awful stuff done to my van by cowboys - and will now only use properly qualified people.
i have worked with gas for many years in my business and know the damage it can do - as do we all.
I still say that recommending that a newbie "does it himself" is really irresponsible.....
and i still say all thats needed is a competant person ,
i never said do it yourself .
competant person . thought by now you might have looked up the word competant .
as i said or it was said gas safe or the old corgi dont cover private m,homes . only ones for hire .
i know really its a problem of words written on a forum . in real conversation it would be easier to explain .
but the rules say competant . i used the same word. wasnt meant to offend .
i also have seen so called caravan /camper places make a right mess of things .
Deleted member 4404
All a gas system consists of is copper pipe, compression joints, valves and clips, and dropouts beneath the joints. If someone is able to use a spanner and a modicum of common sense, I can see no reason why they shouldn't do it themselves.
janner
my own take on copper gas fitting is that i am fully able to fabricate brake lines for cars/vans[my own] which i know are as good as,if not better than a garage would do,i have been for over 35 years,i am also fine with running and joining[braising] copper aircon lines from the roof down to the basement etc,
gas fitting is a lot,lot easier BUT i would only do it if i was the only one to be put at any risk.
gas fitting is a lot,lot easier BUT i would only do it if i was the only one to be put at any risk.
Mike Parkinson
While I grant you that brake pipes could kill you, a leaking aircon line etc wouldn't.
May I suggest that for consideration that people consider more than just connecting copper pipes as seems to be the way we are going here.
There is Flueing,Ventilation,clearance to combustible materials,Crash protection,corrosion resistance,correct clearance from electrics,pipe sizing,adequate electrical fuse protection, amongst many other things to consider as a gas fitter not just joining pipes.Thats a pipe monkeys job.
May I suggest that for consideration that people consider more than just connecting copper pipes as seems to be the way we are going here.
There is Flueing,Ventilation,clearance to combustible materials,Crash protection,corrosion resistance,correct clearance from electrics,pipe sizing,adequate electrical fuse protection, amongst many other things to consider as a gas fitter not just joining pipes.Thats a pipe monkeys job.
Mike Parkinson
Spoken like a true plumber, have we met?
I would remember the pleasure.Are you one too?
delicagirl
and i still say all thats needed is a competant person ,
i never said do it yourself .
competant person . thought by now you might have looked up the word competant .
as i said or it was said gas safe or the old corgi dont cover private m,homes . only ones for hire .
i know really its a problem of words written on a forum . in real conversation it would be easier to explain .
but the rules say competant . i used the same word. wasnt meant to offend .
i also have seen so called caravan /camper places make a right mess of things .
That is no longer true Alan .... just go to GASSAFE and search through Commercial Engineers / LPG or caravans and you will find some engineers in or near your postcode. It IS true that it is not legally compulsory to get your own van worked on by a GASSAFE engineer, but it is legally compulsory on a rental van.
Surely anyone "competant" or with a bit of the old much maligned "common sense" would not want to sleep in a sealed small box heated by gas without getting it checked out properly first ?
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Mike Parkinson
if you use a tyre foot pump with a gauge on and adapt a rubber hose to fit the pipes you can do a pressure test without even putting gas into the pipe work.
i can open anyone of my three lines and check them. if ones leaking fix it .
after all plumbers used to go on a couple weeks corse and turn up on building sites with a nice new canvas bag and new tools .
everyone knew them as bagmen . some were ok others not too smart.
i,m glad i trained as a butcher . learnt alot hee hee .
An air pressure test is fine for pipework but if you put more than operating pressure into a system with appliances or regulators connected you can damage components.Bearing in mind the operating pressure can be blown into a pipe with a good puff of the lungs a foot pump raised pressure could also cause excessive stress on joints never intended to reach those pressures leaving your system more susceptible to stress fractures through over pressurisation.Easy this joining two bits of pipe together isn't it!
channa
An air pressure test is fine for pipework but if you put more than operating pressure into a system with appliances or regulators connected you can damage components.Bearing in mind the operating pressure can be blown into a pipe with a good puff of the lungs a foot pump raised pressure could also cause excessive stress on joints never intended to reach those pressures leaving your system more susceptible to stress fractures through over pressurisation.Easy this joining two bits of pipe together isn't it!
Agreed, Knowing what pressures to test at , permissible drops, times acceptable for FSD's to time out, all part of the job.
A lot of people are clueless to the fact bends etc in pipework, need accounting for in pipe sizing. Ventilation requirements split in to upper and lower, you cant just make it up.
Standards change as well over the years older standard BS5782.....latest EN1949 very little in there that is interchangeable.
Channa