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[Pudsey Bear]

 

[Millie Master]

This conversion could possibly do with another side window to satisfy the DVLA, but I most certainly agree with the expressed thoughts about this woeful organisation!

 

[SquirrellCook]

Are they part of Millard Motorhomes?

Mark

 

[weefish]

Shouldn’t even be an issue as motor caravans are defined in the Road Traffic Act.

What allows the DVLA make up their own rules?

 

[Millie Master]

Shouldn’t even be an issue as motor caravans are defined in the Road Traffic Act.

What allows the DVLA make up their own rules?

Generally speaking it is likely to be the appalling low rent quality and content of the applications, over many years I have seen quite a few of them and I honestly do believe my 8 year old granddaughter could do better!!

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I keep a search going on ebay for self builds, some of the crap for sale is downright awful.

 

[HTF]

Won't be selling mine anytime soon

 

[HTF]

Thinking again, I would build another one on the new E-Sprinter if I had the money

 

[Pudsey Bear]

What would you do for payload?

 

[HTF]

The 4250 kg which can be driven with the regular B licence in Europe only has a 1000 Kg payload capacity. It would involve some creative light building techniques but could be achievable. Anyway at almost 100K Euro, it's just a dream . A small trailer would be required for the extra stuff including a 10Kw backup generator

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I thought the B licence allowed up to 7,500, or 3,500 depending on the date the test was passed, where does the 4,250 come from?

 

[HTF]

It must have been pressure from German builders. Throughout Europe B licence only lets you drive 3500 Kg except for Germany which was 3850 Kg. This higher value let them make bigger motorhomes but when exported they would be plated as 3,5t which would always be overweight in normal conditions. To solve this problem, a few years ago, they passed a law which allows B licence drivers drive non commercial leisure vehicles up to 4250 kg as if they were 3500 kg. Here in Portugal and I suppose, the rest of the EU, another change was made regarding electric commercial vehicles where the regular B licence can also drive these vehicles due to the fact of the original vehicle be naturally heavier because of the battery.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

they passed a law which allows B licence drivers drive non commercial leisure vehicles up to 4250 kg as if they were 3500 kg. Here in Portugal and I suppose, the rest of the EU,

Interesting but not sure it applies here in the UK.

 

[HTF]

You guys have Brexit

 

[HTF]

I don't know if the link works but it says something about UK


https://assets.publishing.service.g.../cat-b-driving-licence-derog-gov-response.pdf

 

[Squiffy]

I've said from the start that electric vans will have to have an allowance made for load capacity due to the very heavy batteries that vans will have to have to allow for load and distance. Can you imagine the problems of organisations like DpD, Amazon, DHL and others trying to get drivers that are legally entitled to drive up to 7.500kg, they have enough problems now to recruit to drive their larger vehicles, because most of us that have grandfather rights are now either retired or too old to be driving around in an out of vans all day. The delivery business would suffer economically and customer satisfactorily.
To my mind it was always a no brainer that the government would change the rules for weight limitations for electric vehicles. Economically they have no choice . Phil

 

[Pudsey Bear]

It's a stupid archaic rule anyway, made when we had the likes of Thames vans etc,

with crap tyres brakes steering and suspension, it should be upgraded & brought into the modern era of vans, and if they need to make it vehicle age related

 

[SquirrellCook]

with crap tyres brakes steering and suspension

It made it safer for other road users, idiots didn't live long!

Mark