Might help new starters.
I wouldn't risk building in a bed less than 6 foot and hoping you get away with it. If someone at the DVLA has a little knowledge of van dimensions then they will instinctively know if a bed is less then 6 ft from the internal photos you have to submit. Imagine the amount of rework that would need to be done if your van was turned down for this reason. It may mean a total rebuild of the interior. As a dedicated forum for self builds I would be advising members who are new to converting to stick to the rules.Thats it and for folk reading it,its a interpretation of law as it states at last page,so if you bed is not qt 6 feet it realy dont mater caus no one is going to come with a tape m,just make sure it looks right as in a proper job rather that a lash up that a schoolboy would do,and i have seen a few in my days.
I did read the document.It recomendation not exact law,read the document, and a vertical chalenged person may well have a legal case
I understand what you are saying,but here is the last page,i have seen many a few inches short of requirements.I did read the document.
In order for a converted vehicle to qualify as a motor caravan it must have certain minimum features:
I wouldn't want to issue a legal challenge through the courts against a refusal of application when the above is clearly stated on the requirements for conversion.
- a bed, which has a minimum length of 1800mm or 6 feet - this can be converted from seats used for other purposes during the day but must be permanently fixed within the body of the vehicle
Who knows but all it takes is for a jobsworth in the DVLA who has a bit of knowledge of vans to refuse application.Be interesting to know if any have been turned down because of bed length?
Totally agree with you. Our transverse bed is under size, but I sent a photo showing the seating area made up into a second bed and it was accepted.Who knows but all it takes is for a jobsworth in the DVLA who has a bit of knowledge of vans to refuse application.
The point of my original comment was that it is a risk that would mean a lot of expensive rework and as a dedicated forum to helping with self conversions then we should be advising new forum members to stick to the published DVLA rules.
When I got my LT it was a minibus - that kind of looks like a van with windows plus a few seats . I applied to change it to a "Van/Windows, with 7 seats" and they asked for photographs showing the changes I had made. Told them I didn't really make any changes and not sure what I could photograph as that is what it really was! so took a photo of the inside with some seats taken out (which were designed to be removed anyway). That change took a couple of months to get through and various calls.In my experience if you’ve got the pictures showing most of the stuff they ask for that’s enough,
however your van MUST look like a motor caravan.
It’s no good sending pictures of your van if it looks like a bus or an ambulance or even a van with windows.
Unfortunately it’s all in the eye of the person who gets to see your application! Just pot luck really...