Is this insulation ok on very tight budget

Clubby40

Hi , I just bought a cheap but tidy nissan vanette , been to bnq n bought some
Thin reflective roll that ya put behind radiators for 7 quid .just started insulating .
I've spray
Adhesived it to inside panels then I'm using 200mm bnq space blanket
Before puttin 6mm ply on . I'm trying to do it as cheap as poss on a tight
Budget . Will this be ok For damp etc ? I'll try n keep the van ventilated if
I'm sleeping in it .
 

Aladdinsane

Hi , I just bought a cheap but tidy nissan vanette , been to bnq n bought some
Thin reflective roll that ya put behind radiators for 7 quid .just started insulating .
I've spray
Adhesived it to inside panels then I'm using 200mm bnq space blanket
Before puttin 6mm ply on . I'm trying to do it as cheap as poss on a tight
Budget . Will this be ok For damp etc ? I'll try n keep the van ventilated if
I'm sleeping in it .
I wouldn't use the full 200mm i'd split it. compressing it will not be advantageous. Also i would apply a vapour barrier under the 6mm ply over the insulation.
 

AuldTam

If you've already bought the space blanket, fair enough....but I would recommend using Kingspan boards or similar instead.

My first conversion was a nissan vanette and I insulated it exactly as you describe....the vanette seemed to attract more condensation than vans ive done since...dont know why? maybe not as well vented as other vans?

Good luck with the conversion...ask as many questions as you like...that's how I picked up a lot of useful information...people on this forum are very knowledgeable.


and it saves you hours of research on the internet and learning by mistake...like me!
 

Clubby40

Ok thanks for that I've got enough spaceblanket for the two rear quarters what king span do you recommend exactly , is it flexible ?
 

trevskoda

Forum Member
insulate

i have tried homebase silver ins with the bubble wrap sandwich im told its as good as 40 ml foam,and it worked brill on my shed tin roof.
 

hextal

Another vote for kingspan.

Basically two main types of heat transfer conduction and radiant. thick padded type stuff is good for limiting conduction and foil is good for limiting radiant. But the latter generally relies on having an inch or so gap on the outer side. If you put foil direct on something hot/cold it conducts it better than almost anything else.
 

mrbigglesworth

Cheap camping mats from Poundland ( might not be available until spring) will give basic insulation and act as a vapour barrier. The bubble foil is ok as a vapour barrier but does need that air space to insulate effectively. Kingspan will give great insulation but reduce the usable width inside the van especially if the walls are curved.

Rather than 6mm I would use 3.5mm ply - cheaper, lighter plus it's easier to work and bend. Cover with vinyl or carpet on top.

Travis Perkins sell the ply for about £13 for an 8x4 sheet if you ask for a free trade card. Other stuff like screws and glues are cheaper from Toolstation or Screwfix.

Mr B.
 

Bigpeetee

Caravan breakers are great for useful parts, BUT they end up trying to get rid of a lot of timber, panelling etc as they can't sell it. Perhaps a visit to one would get you loads of bits for free or a donation into their tea fund!!
 

Clubby40

Great thanks for all the info guys . Ill get some campin mats for the floor i think .
 

minus273degrees

I just finished mine used pound land roll mats and b nd q was great for 3 mm ply what I used on the roof sell big sheets but also offer a cutting service
 

Clubby40

Hey Minus , did you make a wooden frame for the roof to screw the ply to or just use the
Roof beams to screw to ?
 

Clubby40

So is it the same process with the rear door glass as I'm wanting to blank it out anyway ?
 

coolasluck

I have just added to my coaches insulation and i used a 5mm pure aluminium double faced foil with insulation inbetween.This is a vapour barrier and the aluminium foil will reflect the heat inside and help keep out heat if in hot countries.Normal foil just reflects light and not heat the aluminium will reflect the heat keeping that heat inside.
If you are going to add or put in insulation dont skip because of cost as it is a false economy.

Campervan Insulation | CampervanConversion.co.uk


The material is called low-e es if i remember correctly and has been used in the u.s for about 20 years.

I am looking forward to seeing how well this aids in keeping us toasty warm later on down the line:)

The material can be found elsewhere on the net also so shop around .
 

whitevanwoman

I've got a unconverted (well, mid conversion!) LWB HiRoof Transit Van which I've been gradually insulating whilst using over the past year.

I've used 2 layers of camping mats, then carpet for the floor and can walk around in socks without feet feeling cold. In the winter I use a big piece of lino (found in a skip :) ) and / or clear plastic mat (£4 for a 6ft runner from B&M Bargains) on the floor to help protect the carpet which of course adds an extra layer of insulation.

On the roof I've used silver bubble wrap loft insulation (around £12-£15 per roll, cheapest place I've found it is Wickes, buy plenty now as it's difficult to get during the summer, and you might pick it up a bit cheaper in a few weeks time when the DIY superstores sell off winter stuff) which was glued straight onto metal using spray glue (£1 per can in pound shop). I've then put a layer of camping mat on top of that. From what people have said I should have probably glued the camping mat to the roof first and then put the silver bubble wrap onto the camping mat, but I'm planning another layer of silver bubble wrap on the roof anyway.

The cavities in the roof ribs were stuffed with whatever scraps of insulation I could find - off cuts of camping mats, silver bubble wrap, foam rubber, and I've got a few cans of spray insulation for those hard to reach gaps when I've completely finished the insulation.

The cavities in the doors were filled with sheep fleece - I live in a rural area and know a few farmers who have been more than happy to donate a few fleeces as they only get about £1 per fleece from the Wool Board and they end up burning alot of fleece which the Wool Board doesn't want. The fleece is filthy, stinks and is full of lanolin but I wash it in the washing machine in a pillow case (only wash a bit at a time) usually several times with a final rinse in vinegar and it comes out slightly felted, and when dry, there is no smell. I've also used either camping mat or silver bubble wrap on the back of the ply lining for the doors - not completely vapour proof but it should do the job. If you don't have a friendly farmer, you can pick up rock wool cheap in a few weeks time when the DIY superstores sell it off cheap in the spring sale.

I'm just about to remove the side ply linings in the van and insulate behind them the same way as I have done for the doors.

Any bits of bare metal are covered in aluminium tape - I found a supplier on ebay which does it for 99p per roll and bought about 5 rolls. Occasionally you can find it in pound shops. Eventually I'd like to completely carpet the sides, roof and doors but I need to wait for a win at bingo for that.

Total cost (like you I'm on a very low budget) has been 4 rolls of silver bubble wrap = approx £50, about £15 for spray glue and aluminium tape, about £10 for camping mats (I got a few for £1 each in the end of summer sale at B&M bargains and I already had 3 or 4 from my tent camping days), the cost of doing about 10 washes of fleece with vinegar (under £10 probably), a couple of rolls of duck tape (£1 each from pound shop). Can't think of any other expenses. But it's been a time consuming process and a labour of love, so although costing more, Kingspan is probably much quicker and easier to use.

I have a whirly bird roof vent which I always keep open no matter how cold it is. The first time I ever slept in the Transit, it rained constantly for the 2 days and nights and I woke up to a waterfall of condensation. Now there is virtually no condensation except for on the coldest nights or in the wettest weather when I get a faint misting on the ceiling. Hopefully another layer of silver bubble wrap will eliminate that.

Interestingly I spent 3 nights in it during the snowy weather a couple of weeks ago, and when I woke up in the morning, I was warm as toast but the top side of the blanket on my duvet was quite damp with condensation. But there was virtually no condensation on the roof.

I will be putting extra insulation on the roof above the high shelf and above my "wardrobe" as I've noticed that if there is any condensation that's where it tends to be, presumably because the air can't circulate as freely.

Draught proofing is as important as insulation in my opinion especially for a conversion - there are strong draughts from the bottom and the join of the rear doors, and along the bottom of the side sliding door, so good old fashioned curtains and draught excluders help stop those. The curtain to the cab has recently been lined (using spray glue and some not very neat hand stitching) with silver bubble wrap and that has made a huge difference in keeping heat in.

I'm planning eventually to do some insulation in the cab too, behind the door panels and on the floor etc. I've made myself some "made to measure" internal window screens, again from silver bubble wrap and window suction hooks (about £1 for a packet of about a dozen at Christmas time) which I use at meets or "safe" wilding spots, campsites etc. They also make a massive difference.

It would be really interesting to get an infra red light on the van and see where the worst heat escape comes from. Probably through the roof vent but for condensation and safety that has to stay open.
 

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