Diesel air blown heating

[schubert]

Hi. Can anyone help me chose between Eberpacher or Webasto diesel blown air heaters . I had problems with a Eberpacher in the past but is the Webasto any better ?. Are there any other diesel fueled alternatives that anyone can suggest ??. It must be diesel.

Schubert

 

[Beemer]

I have had Erbespacher and found it noisy, a friend has the Webasto system which seems a quieter system.

 

[witzend]

In my opinion there,s not much to chose between them unless there,s a difference in price or spec I had some experience with both as overnight cab heaters and wouldn't know which to choose

 

[sak]

Got an eberspacher under the drivers seat in my T5 had it for 2 years now it is only noisy when it first starts but I always turn it on 10 minutes before I get to my destination then it is just ticking over and not pulling any power from the leisure battery, you can hear the pump ticking but if it bothers you the fitter said to wrap the pump in bubble wrap and you won't hear it.

 

[FULL TIMER]

I've used and fitted most of the heaters, I currently have an Eberspacher, there is also another make to look out for Mikuni they are also very good.
Mikuni | Marine Heaters | Vehicle Heaters, I have fitted many MY30's in the past in ambulances and they proved to be very reliable and easy to work on. there are also these MV Airo 2KW Diesel Heater - Grassroutes Leisure Ltd, these are a new one on me. By the way for those that say the diesel heaters are noisy, you can get silencers for the exhausts and more importantly the combustion air inlets which drastically reduce the noise,

 

[noarlunga]

Having had Eberspacher fitted in the past I've just gone over to Webasto.

The Airtop I have now is reasonably quiet and probably quieter than the Eberspachers but there's not much in it. I'm very happy with it and the Webasto parking heater which is fitted to the engine.

Johnny A

 

[phillybarbour]

I have a Webasto Thermo Top C300 and after start up I feel it's very quiet, it's located under the bonnet. It does seem much noisier when your stood outside the van.

 

[n brown]

my webasto is a lot quieter than the eberspacher I had before. I must try it, but i'm told that the corrugations on the inlet and outlet make the noise worse,easy enough to put a smoothbore pipe on the inlet at least. of course the quietest is propex !

 

[Deadsfo]

I have a webasto in a mb508 ex nato ambulance it has 3 outlets one in the cab two in the back really its one facing forward and two facing backwards since the bulkhead was removed have'nt got round to running it yet ,it has what looks like a starter button on the dash and setting dial that was on the bulkhead, it will be interesting to see how hot it gets and how noisy it gets with three outlets running

 

[Roger]

I'd suspect that now both brands are made in the same factory in China.

For convenience I'd go for a water heater/air heater all in one unit - mainly space. Diesel is easy if you have a diesel vehicle and is cheap to plumb in when compared to LPG which will need piping from the bottle/tank. I'd even go for a diesel hob - just waiting for the affordable diesel fridge!!

 

[Dezi]

Hi this thread has been covered before, but I will reiterate.

In our 1st Murvi 1990 - 2009, we had an Eberpacher. It did its job after an upgrade, but was noisy.

2nd Murvi 2009 on, we have a Webasto. Far superior piece of kit. Quieter, supplies more heat, more economical.

The above information should not surprise with regards to the equipment I am using because of the 10 years of development betweem them.

You really need a comparison between a 2013 Eberspacher & a 2013 Webasto.

Dezi

 

[Firefox]

Every van I have been in with diesel heating, it has been very noisy. Not to mention they are hugely expensive to buy.

I'd go for a LPG propex every time. Cheaper to buy, more economical to run (unless you use red diesel), faster instant heat, and much much quieter. They win in every department.

 

[gaz2676]

You really need a comparison between a 2013 Eberspacher & a 2013 Webasto.

Dezi

get yersel to the truck stop ask the drivers with the new units .im sure some will entertain yer question and reason why ..but be carefull how you word it once yer in the cab YOU might be the night heater

 

[Talbot]

Every van I have been in with diesel heating, it has been very noisy. Not to mention they are hugely expensive to buy.

I'd go for a LPG propex every time. Cheaper to buy, more economical to run (unless you use red diesel), faster instant heat, and much much quieter. They win in every department.

Just wondering why you would go for an LPG Propex blown air heater? Is this any different to the 2kw whale blown air heater which I have read many owners say are totally inadequate to heat a motorhomes living space. I've also read that a leisure battery will go almost flat with just 4 hours of use (on the Whale heater) as the fan is resource hungry? I'd be keen to hear why you believe Propex heaters are good as I'm currently researching heaters and not sure which are the best to go for.

 

[kellyjohn]

Hi friend and I fitted webasto in summer so pleased did I live in van full time and sooo pleased with heat output and fuel consumption I know expensive but for my needs worth every penny especially this time of year, I had gas fire with blown air heating before , just not good enough , piped webasto into old ducting van is kept at constant temp 18 degrees , thats with heater set at half thanks john

 

[wolvesamongus]

I have a webasto in a mb508 ex nato ambulance it has 3 outlets one in the cab two in the back really its one facing forward and two facing backwards since the bulkhead was removed have'nt got round to running it yet ,it has what looks like a starter button on the dash and setting dial that was on the bulkhead, it will be interesting to see how hot it gets and how noisy it gets with three outlets running

I guess yours is the same as fitted to my 1986 508d model DBW 210/211 11.6 kW B.T.U/Hour40 000 Fuel Consumption 2.7 pints/Hour Current Consumption W 60 water pump W30 just in case you don't have spec I have a spare operating manual if you need one email me your address and I will post to you. The pipe rubber is very brittle in places on mine need to replace if I keep it in check yours.

 

[john t]

In our first van we had a gas fire heater, no fans at all so no battery consumpion, and it was brill. in our Tribute Triango panel van we have the Webasto heating with blown air by a fan thats on constantly, my worry is that this will eventually drain the leisure battery so we'll end up with no power at all. We now carry a small portable gas heater running off it's own 6kg gas bottle, and it's great, given a chance i would love the gas fire that we had in van No1, but the Webasto is fairly quiet though, but nothing like as warm as a gas fire.!!!!

jt

 

[Romanymarea]

Romanymarea

We have an eberspacher diesel heating system with 3 outlets,the two at the rear of the motorhome pump out very hot air ,whilst the one behind the drivers seat only seems to deliver cold air,we cannot see any hoses disconnected ,can anyone suggest anything we might try ...thanks in advance

 

[n brown]

if the cold air is actually being blown out then that's very odd ! you ''ll have to follow the ducting and find a disconnection or a squashed pipe. did it ever blow warm air ?

 

[GRWXJR]

My van has an old Webasto Air Top 2000 that I just had to bits to decoke it.

1. It runs great and nice n hot now running it on Heating Oil which I've read runs it hotter and cleaner so less carbon deposits.

2. I found a chunk of the dosing pump clunk is the operation transmitting through the chassis as the rubber insert on the mount clamp doesn't isolate it enough. If you unbolt the pump and try it hanging loose its loads quieter. I've added an extra rubber mounting now.

3. In my ongoing revamp I wanted all services out by the back doors in the storage so moved my webasto from under the sofa/ bed to the back. This removes some of the mechanical noise from right under us. To keep it efficient and recirculating the habitat air I have made an insulated chamber. Inlet air comes in to the heater via the Hab / storage dividing wall drawing air from inside the under sink kitchen cabinet ( which has a gap at the base running all the way through to the sofa bed box) then gets blown back into the Han via the wall again. Siting it remotely has helped lessen the heater noise in the Hab area quite a bit.

So I'd say that siting and installation have a big effect on the perceived noise from a blown heater. Mine still sounds a bit like a jet on runway warmup outside the van though so some sort of inlet / outlet silencing would be good to make one a better neighbour though!