DVLA requirements for change to motor caravan

This line is very interesting .... "If a keeper is satisfied that the vehicle meets the definition of a motor caravan then it can be operated it as such regardless whether or not the DVLA have registered it as such in the ‘body type’ field."
I have not seen that stated so unequivocally before. A very useful bit of info there(y)
Problem is, if you contest a speeding fine you may be asked to prove the vehicle meets the definition of a motor caravan and the only way to do so would be to register it as such with the DVLA.
I have previously asked the DVLA how they decide on what speed limits apply to a motor caravan as they don't have the MLW of the vehicle on record and the response was the person responsible for checking traffic speeds will make a judgement on what it looks like.
 
My last email to the DVLA's Mrs Lisa John was one which wasn't specific to an individual application, as I had phrased and worded my email in generalistic terms and yet she responded by writing "We are unable to comment on individual cases but each application is looked at by a case-by-case basis."

Patently the DVLA are not doing their job properly and no doubt if the level of applications continues at the current or similar rate then I can well see them introducing a significant charge for undertaking what they should be doing!

Phil
 


Problem is, if you contest a speeding fine you may be asked to prove the vehicle meets the definition of a motor caravan and the only way to do so would be to register it as such with the DVLA.
I have previously asked the DVLA how they decide on what speed limits apply to a motor caravan as they don't have the MLW of the vehicle on record and the response was the person responsible for checking traffic speeds will make a judgement on what it looks like.
and that is where contesting comes into the picture as I have said before.
And that statement from the DVLA changes the goalposts as they saying it does NOT need to be recorded as a Motor Caravan in order to BE a Motor Caravan. I got my 4.6t Van with Side Windows MOTed as a Motor Caravan for example.
Obviously different people have different views and I am happy sticking with mine :)
 


My last email to the DVLA's Mrs Lisa John was one which wasn't specific to an individual application, as I had phrased and worded my email in generalistic terms and yet she responded by writing "We are unable to comment on individual cases but each application is looked at by a case-by-case basis."

Patently the DVLA are not doing their job properly and no doubt if the level of applications continues at the current or similar rate then I can well see them introducing a significant charge for undertaking what they should be doing!

Phil
I was concerned they might even introduce a compulsory vehicle examination at a DVLA centre with a hefty inspection charge. As you mention, there are a high number of applications each month and this would reduce the number of applications but could also improve the standard of conversions in order to reduce the risk of being refused re-classification.
 
To be honest I’d welcome an inspection before reclassification, and gladly pay for it. I did join (and quickly left!) some Facebook self build groups and saw some shockingly dangerous conversions, and on many occasions any offer of advice given by others is met with hostility. You can’t help stupid..
 
I did join (and quickly left!) some Facebook self build groups and saw some shockingly dangerous conversions, and on many occasions any offer of advice given by others is met with hostility. You can’t help stupid..
Garry; that mirrors my experiences with some of the Facebook groups added to which so many of the participants are utterly foul mouthed as well. I have left most of them these days to get on digging their own holes but I am still on with 2 vehicle make specific groups who I find to be far more acceptable and understanding.
Phil
 


Speaking as an Ex-insider and in view of the numbers being talked about , and also with recent reorganization of the agency , they dont have the facilities or staffing levels of suitable persons to carry out a physical examination . This policy change has been sent from above , as no body does anything without very specific instructions , and majority are not driven by a can do approach believe me :)
 
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